This website will save you money on your phone calls to 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers. Irish consumers are needlessly paying out up to €5 a time to call “low cost” telephone numbers like those beginning 1890 — even though they could get the calls for next to nothing.
This is because many organisations and businesses are encouraging their customers to ring their LoCall 1890, or 1850 Callsave, or 0818 National Call telephone numbers at local call rates costing 4.9c a minute in the daytime and 1.26c off-peak.
But popular mobile and landline phone deals with inclusive minutes exclude calls to LoCall 1890 numbers, Callsave 1850 and national 0818 calls from their minute bundles, hence representing an additional but unnecessary cost to the consumer.
This website will provide Irish consumers with geographical alternative telephone numbers to use instead of the 1890, 1850 and 0818 supplied by Irish Businesses, allowing Irish consumers save some money.
So, if you’re calling from a mobile and use a geographic alternative number instead of a 1890 / 1850 / 0818 number, you can save up to 40c per minute on your calls.
So, save yourself money by using this website on your mobile phone, or on your pc. Say no to 1890 call costs, forget 185o call costs, and say bye bye to 0818 costs. And use this website to do all that, for free.
If you’re interested in helping out in a project to create a SayNoTo1890 smartphone app in early 2015, please read more here.
Designing an appropriate SayNoTo1890 smartphone app will make it much easier to dial the geographic alternatives for the 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers, helping you save even more money. It will also facilitate the sharing of information to gather even more geographic alternatives as well as ensure those numbers are always as up to date as possible.
It’s been something I’ve been thinking about for a while now, and a smartphone app for the SayNoTo1890.com website is a regularly requested feature from the users of the website.
This detailed blog post explains how I’d like to go about building this smartphone app, and what assistance I’d like to get and will need to get the app built, hopefully early in 2015.
Many thanks to the folks at @LeapCard on Twitter for providing a geographic alternative for their 1850 customer service number. It’s been a while coming – a few e-mails I sent them previously went unanswered. This page has now been updated as well.
Basically, I don’t provide a telephone directory service here, so e-mailing me demanding that I publish a geographic alternative for some company that you’re looking for, or claiming that it’s unreasonable that I don’t provide a geographic alternative for some company or another, means that I’m probably just going to delete your e-mail.
Just for kicks
I do this in my spare time, and for the most part, most people using this website understand that, and help out. And I try to help people help themselves – when someone e-mails looking for a number, and they receive the automated e-mail politely giving instructions on how they could find the alternative themselves.
I do ask in that e-mail, that if they do find the geographic alternative themselves, that they e-mail back letting me know so that I can publish the number and share it with everyone else.
5%. That’s the number of people who’ve requested a number, follow the instructions on the e-mail, and then e-mail me back with the number to share with everyone.
Still, I go on.
Finding geographic alternatives using Twitter
Someone recently asked in a comment what the geographic alternative for the Parcel Motel was. To be fair, there was no alternative number available anywhere on their website.
I found the number sometime after midnight on a Wednesday using Twitter. Simples.
I have to say, I’m not a fan because of the implications that pre-paying electricty is cheaper rather than the fact that it’s actually more expensive. To me, it’s sort of preying on those who have little finances to play around with already.
And they haven’t done themselves again with some inaccurate advertising on their current TV advertising (and apologies for the dodgy screenshot):
Now, technically, calling a CallSave number (1850) will generally be cheaper than calling a LoCall number (1890), so consumers won’t be disadvantaged by this carelessness, but to me it’s just a bad sign.
This is a company who’ve paid for national TV advertising, and they can’t get a simple thing like this right.
As a matter of interest, instead of calling 1850945020 (as in the advert) or 1850945021 (from their website), you could try calling their head office on 029 50830 instead and asking to be put through.
Many many thanks to the hundreds of people who’ve e-mailed me here with new geographic alternative numbers over the last few months. My apologies for the tardiness in making the updates to the website to reflect this new information, but over the coming weekend I will be updating all the necessary pages with the new numbers provided.
Please keep the e-mails and comments coming – the more geographic alternative numbers we can share around, the more money we can all save on calling these 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers.
1890, 1850 and many 0818 numbers cannot be called from Skype or other VOIP services. So, if you’re overseas, for example, and need to call any of these numbers using your Skype service, you’re in bother.
You can, however, make use of all the geographic alternative numbers provided here on SayNoTo1890.com to call these companies.
So, in a situation where you want to call the Ulster Bank to ask them why their systems are broken again, you might try dialing 1850424365, but you’ll get an “Invalid Number” error.
If you’re abroad when you’re trying to make that call, you might be trying to dial +353 1850424365. Skype, however, will recognise this as an 01 Dublin number beginning 850 – not what you’re looking for.
So, if you’re using Skype or other VOIP services, and need to call an 1890, 1850 or 0818 number, then go to the A-Z link page here and find the company you want to call, or use the search box (top right of this page) and type in the number (no spaces) you’re trying to call to see if there is a geographic alternative available.
I’ve written about this before, and will be following up directly with Dublin City Council, but here’s photo of one of their parking ticket machines where they’re describing the 0818 customer support number for “Park & Pay” as being “locall”. If you check out the “Call Costs” page, you can see this would have significant cost implications for mobile users (likely the only people calling this number).