Archive for April, 2009

permaNet.ie Broadband geographical alternative number

Thursday, April 30th, 2009

Many thanks to the SayNoTo1890.com reader who sent in the geographical alternative for the broadband provider permaNet.ie.

permaNET broadband

  • 1890 818 599 – Call 021 2366150

Anyone have a geographical alternative for ItsForWomen.ie?

Wednesday, April 29th, 2009

A SayNoTo1890.com reader has asked if anyone knows the geographical alternative contact number for the terribly unfair and sexist insurance website www.its4women.ie .

I’ve had a look through the site and don’t see anything relevant. There are a couple of 01 numbers there, but they’re for claims which actually go through to different companies.

THe same company is also behind www.25plus.ie.

That company is MCL Insurance Services , but they’re based in Northern Ireland and don’t provide direct geographical contact numbers either.

Anyone have any numbers that can be used?

Geographical Alternative for Zurich Insurance

Tuesday, April 28th, 2009

There have been a couple of e-mails recently asking for the geographical alternative number for Zurich Insurance. There doesn’t seem to be a specific one available for either their Sales or Customer Service numbers, but their website does have a main switch number.

You could try calling that number and seeing if they’ll put you through to the department you’re trying to contact. If they don’t or won’t, maybe ask them if there is another geographical alternative number that they have so that you could reach those departments directly.

  • 1850 44 77 99 – Call 01 6670666

Of course, if they won’t put you through (a sign of very poor customer service), then we could just keep ringing the switch asking to be put through until they actually do provide a proper geographical alternative for their 1850 numbers.

Geographical Alternative for Airtricity

Monday, April 27th, 2009

There have been a couple of e-mails recently asking for the geographical alternative number for Airtricity. There doesn’t seem to be a specific one available for either their Sales or Customer Service numbers, but their website does have a main switch number.

You could try calling that number and seeing if they’ll put you through to the department you’re trying to contact. If they don’t or won’t, maybe ask them if there is another geographical alternative number that they have so that you could reach those departments directly.

  • Sales: 1850 40 40 80 – Call 01 6556 400
  • Customer Service: 1850 40 40 70 – Call 01 6556 400

Of course, if they won’t put you through (a sign of very poor customer service), then we could just keep ringing the switch asking to be put through until they actually do provide a proper geographical alternative for their 1850 numbers.

Geographical Alternative for XS Direct Insurance Brokers

Friday, April 24th, 2009

Many thanks to the SayNoTo1890.com reader who sent us in the geographical alternative for the 0818 number provided by the XS Direct Insurance Brokers.

XS Direct Insurance Brokers

  • 0818 222888 – Call 01 661 0999

Call Costs Page Now Available Again

Thursday, April 23rd, 2009

After a couple of weeks searching through old files on my computer here, I’ve finally found the original version of the Call Costs page showing you how much your 1890, 1850 and 0818 calls will cost you from most of the phone packages available in Ireland at the moment.

The page will be available from the main menu from now on, or you can access it by clicking here .

Geographical Alternative for Imagine Broadband

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

Last week a reader asked if anyone knew of a geographical alternative for the Imagine Broadband customer service number. There were a couple of responses, all of which suggested using the Imagine Broadband main switch number and asking to be put through.

  • Imagine Broadband Customer Service 1890 92 93 94 – Call 01 437 5000

In some cases, business aren’t happy that people call their normal switch asking for customer service departments, but it’s worth a try. If they do complain when you call, ask them for a proper geographical alternative number instead.

Negative reader feedback about SayNoTo1890.com

Tuesday, April 21st, 2009

A week or so ago, I got my first ever negative comment on ValueIreland.com specifically regarding an article I wrote for the Irish News of the World about this website, SayNoTo1890.com. The comment went as follows:

“the company on the other end of the line are actually making money from your call” – Companies who don’t feel the need to subsidise their customers calls use a universal number (0818) -The customer is charged the cost of a national call–If volumes are large enough the Service provider i.e. the telco may give a rebate to the company- This can be about 1 cent a minute or about 60cent per hour- hard to see how they are making a profit here! -your article is sensational and misleading for the ordinary consumer-
You are only increasing tension between the customer and the poor guy on the other end trying to do his job, so as you can look like the peoples champion that you claim to be.
As for saynoto11890.com- I see you are selling some adsense along the way- few quid on the back of peoples fustration- nice. Real leader of the gang..

Despite them even getting the website name wrong, here’s the follow up I posted at the time – which wasn’t responded to any further, unsurprisingly.

Thanks for your comments, I think. Very nice and brave of you to comment so strongly, yet anonymously.

Thank you, though, in your comment for confirming the fact that companies using 0818 numbers can make money off the back of their customers calling in. You refer to making a profit – I didn’t. I only referred to 0818 numbers as being a revenue stream.

If, as you say, businesses don’t want to subsidise their customers phone calls by providing 1890 or 1850 numbers, why do they not provide simple geographic numbers (such as 01, 021 or 091 etc) rather than these 0818 number?

Because they don’t provide such geographic numbers, it’s my opinion that business providing 0818 numbers are doing so with the specific intention of making money off the back of these calls – you can call it sensationalist if you like, but there you go – it’s my opinion.

Otherwise, why would companies be so protective of their geographical alternatives – resisting any attempt by their own customers to get these numbers in order to be able to call them at a cheaper rate? To me, this shows a complete lack of regard for their customers.

All that said, contrary to your comment, there is nothing in this article that is misleading. I’m open to any other specific issues being highlighted – e-mail me here any time with the actual statement that is incorrect.

And while we’re at “misleading statements”, I don’t claim, and never have claimed, to be a “peoples champion” as you state. This website, and my newspaper articles, are my personal views and opinions surrounding consumer affairs issues in Ireland at the moment and much of the bullshit that consumers have to put up with. It is my hope that readers here read items that you don’t see anywhere – showing an angle to what’s going on that others either don’t see, don’t want to see, or don’t want to talk about for fear of upsetting the famous “powers that be”.

I don’t speak for anyone. I don’t claim to speak for anyone – I speak for myself.

I encourage and welcome feedback from the readers here – it broadens the discussion and highlights a wider range of issues for those who are kind enough to visit.

As for Adsense, I run this website for around €100 per year – covering the cost of website names and hosting. The addition of Google advertising in the last 6 months was an attempt to recoup some of the cost of keeping the site going.

Maybe you should redirect your ire to the consumer organisations who actually do claim to represent consumers who spend anything from €750,000 to €10m per year and don’t even match (in my humble opinion) the quality of the content that is found here on ValueIreland.com.

Companies with no Geographical Alternatives

Monday, April 20th, 2009

There are a few companies that provide 1890, 1850 or 0818 contact details for their customers where it’s proving impossible to find geographical alternatives.

The current listing that I have at the moment where there are no geographical alternatives available, that we know of, is here:

  • Aer Lingus
  • Sky Television

I will keep this listing updated as time goes on.

If you’ve come across this page, and you actually do have a geographical alternative number for one of these companies above, then please contact us and we’ll publish the number to share with everyone else using the site.

Number wanted for ESB Fault Report – 1850 372 999

Friday, April 17th, 2009

A SayNoTo1890 reader has contacted us to see if anyone has a geographical alternative number for the ESB Networks Fault Report number – 1850 372 999 .

If you know of a number, or if you work for the ESB and know how to get through to this number via a normal telephone number, please e-mail us through the Contact Page and we’ll share it with everyone else.

We won’t tell anyone where we got the number from.